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naturopath and medical intuitive dr.

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Reid Louise we have learned from

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Einstein's theory that matter and energy

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are one physicists believe that all

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systems in nature have their own

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particular way of vibrating from the

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swinging of a pendulum to the waves of

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the ocean to the light that brightens

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the sky each day each of these

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oscillates at its own unique great the

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same holds true for every thought

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feeling event or word we speak each has

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its own frequency or rate of vibration

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what many of us don't realize is when we

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take everything in our universe down to

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its simplest form it is all just energy

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join dr. Louise on a journey through

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time and space where past present and

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future collide today what you believe

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may be called into question what we want

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to know is who made up the rules be

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brave and step outside the box we are

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about to turn our world upside down and

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venture into the unknown hold on we are

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departing our own beliefs and entering

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alternative realms enjoy the

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hello and welcome to just energy radio

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I'm your host dr. Reid Louise and thank

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you all for tuning into the show tonight

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Oh yet another great show we're going to

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be talking with my good friend Brian

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forest or about his new book which of

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elongated skulls again not from what I

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the last several weeks I've been talking

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about how people can go to amazon.com

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deconstructing the archetypes the

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guess I should be organized today but I

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bit about bry Forrester and we will

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bring him on the air Bryant Forrester is

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an authority

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on the megalithic work of South America

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and the perplexing ancient elongated

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head headed people of the area founder

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of hidden in Couture's brian divides his

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the surrounding area where he offers two

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tours of sacred sites his website also

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offers hours and I'm telling you people

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hours of footage which he shares with

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the mysteries of strains locations with

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all of us his webpage is hidden in

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Couture's com so please welcome back to

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Just Energy radio Brien Foerster hey

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Brian how are you hey dr. how about you

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I am excellent excellent excellent it is

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always so nice to have you on the show

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and have the opportunity to learn more

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about what is all going on with you and

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what you've learned since the last time

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you talked and I know that you have like

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some new information force that is like

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hot off the press and I I hope we're

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going to be able to get that far and you

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know because I want to kind of save it

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but then I'm afraid that if I save it

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won't get out but one of the things that

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I thought was really interesting is on

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the cover of your book elongated skulls

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there wasn't there's an image excuse me

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of you know what it looks like a

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reconstructed face you know of one of

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these elongated skulls has anybody gone

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and actually done a facial

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reconstruction on one of the skulls from

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South America well different people have

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academics that are actually quite crude

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Plume who is presently in the United

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States he's done at 3,000 or 4,000

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drawings of the elongated skulls from

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around the world and the one you're

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referring to is a 3d modeling done by

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Marcia que mujer y and so but that was

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skull I mean it's not I mean I guess

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cranium looks huge is twice the size of

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the face well what happens is that I

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specific skull and from that she's able

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to do a 3d model she's actually Native

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American herself so she's very used to

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the facial features of Native people at

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which we presume the Baracus are so I

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think she's done the finest rendition so

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far I mean I just think it really adds

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to the dilemma that we face when talking

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about some of these skulls because you

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see it's you know just the skull sitting

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on the shelf and it looks bizarre but

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then you actually give it features and

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different level very much so ok so let

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me see us when we talk about elongated

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skulls I mean how far does it go back in

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time well in terms of cranial

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deformation which is where the baby's

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head has been bound in order to alter

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the shape that goes back possibly fifty

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area specifically a cave in Iraq but in

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so years ago so that would just make

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them about 1000 BC and are we talk well

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shin our cave shannond our cave that's

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so is that well I just have a question

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earliest burials uh that's yeah very

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true and I think only one skull was ever

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found somewhat in bad condition but in

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general were you know we are talking in

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the Shannon dark cave one is you know

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since only ones been found you can't

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and anomaly at this point time yeah

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carbon-dated cranial ed formed skull but

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hundreds of them have been found in

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specific cultures then of course you can

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figure out a lot more about who these

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people were how widespread it is it you

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brought forward so much information

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about the skulls and brew but from what

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Peru I mean you were just talking about

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Iraq or Iran I mean how widespread was

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this practice around the around the

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world um it's been it's been found or

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skulls have been found that have been

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cradle ed formed on every continent

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except Antarctica so far well that's

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definitely the so far part yeah do we

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find just a few incidences I mean we're

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what's going on in Peru but do we find

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more instances in any other place than

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world that it seemed to be a very common

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number of elongated skulls have been

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found in Germany and Austria and parts

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of France and they're the result of the

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migration of the Hun people as in Attila

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bahan who practiced cranial deformation

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area so that's the connect you know the

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connection with all of those that have

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been found in Europe are probably the

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movement of the Hun westward then you

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find anomalous ones in Australia that

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they have no idea who these people were

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they the ones in Australia clearly were

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not Aboriginal native people they seemed

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to be almost Caucasoid people so you're

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talking about an interesting migration

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there and then in in China and and that

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area it's a little more obscure in as

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regards origins one of the things they

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were asking in the chat room and I think

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you probably have more information on it

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than I do was elongated skulls in Egypt

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I know that for a really long time they

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thought you know everything started in

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Egypt and moved around the world have

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there been a lot of elongated skulls

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found in that region that's a great

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question and the answer is no none of

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the Egypt researchers that I know such

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as Stephen Mahler have ever seen one

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example of an actual elongated skull in

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Egypt I found a photograph of one in a

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collection in England but its provenance

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is unknown so what you're talking about

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in Egypt is you're talking about an

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artistic portrayal mainly during the

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time of Akhenaten but as regards actual

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elongated skulls I'm hoping someday

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we'll find a number of them but so far

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the number appears to be zero even

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Akhenaten and Tutankhamun

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didn't have elongated skulls well

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actually Tutankhamun's skull I've seen

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two or three times and it is different

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it is elongated backwards and he has a

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depression on the top of his head so he

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seems to be kind of different but

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there's no real proof that Akhenaten's

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mummy has ever been found and the same

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with Nefertiti so the only possible

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Egyptian evidence we have is Tutankhamun

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himself okay and I always find that

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really interesting that even though in

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the region they were had they had that

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kind of pointy had that they wore that

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skull in it that they haven't found

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elongated skulls well the you know

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fascinating and what he seemed to be

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doing is is since he was involved in

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almost a rebirth of the culture of Egypt

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like a renaissance he was bringing

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information from very distant in the

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past all the way back possibly to Osiris

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and Isis and of course Osiris is very

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often shown with either an elongated

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head or a very huge hat which one would

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ok that's interesting but you know there

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is the belief that they were emulating

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the gods and so if he hadn't elongated

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head and people were emulating him then

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it would make sense to me well it does

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and I should eat the whole concept of

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who was Osiris was Osiris to some myth

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or was Osiris an ancestor that did look

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quite different than you know modern-day

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and we don't know but one day we might

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actually figure it out that's right can

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you talk briefly about the different

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kind of cranial the method of cranial

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deformation because from what I

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understand it not all cranial

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deformation is the same no that's true

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you know the most common practice let's

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say amongst the Native American people

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there a lot of cranial deformation was

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done on the west coast of Canada and

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into Washington and Oregon and that is

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what is called cradle boarding where the

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baby was kept in a cradle and then

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another board was was attached to where

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the top of the head would be and so

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there would be gradual flattening of the

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of the head and that's where the you

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know basically the so-called flathead

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indians their description came from

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cradle boarding other practices are

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binding of textiles with a stiff

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material like a board in the front and

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the back of the skull in order to

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flatten and also extend the height of

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the skull those are the two most common

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practices a third was a practice done by

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the magnetic people of the Congo of

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western Africa and that was more just

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sheer binding in order to try to achieve

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almost a conehead kind of look any

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thoughts on why you know other than to

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look like the gods why they would use or

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do something like that well the most the

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three most common reasons if you are

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able to ask descendants of these people

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or if you're able to look up in oral

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tradition or any written record it was

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only done a

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the nobility class like the priesthood

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and the more regal people and they said

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number one it made our children more

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intelligent number two we find it

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aesthetically pleasing and number three

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like that yeah yeah they're there you're

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hinting at ancestors that may have

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actually looked like that as in being

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born like that well but there's also the

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Condit the connection that there was a

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belief in these indigenous cultures that

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if you look like that you would be

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smarter making the assumption that these

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other people were smarter well that and

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also you know the royal royal class

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wanted to look distinct as compared to

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the general population so they may have

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wanted to enhance themselves this way in

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order to show that they come from a

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exactly have you found any patterns of

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distribution of the skulls as far as

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using one method like you said that in

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the Pacific Northwest they did a lot of

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cradle boarding but have you found any

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distribution patterns as far as

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methodologies used in different areas um

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well I've mainly been focusing on Peru

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and Bolivia and of course that's the

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reason why I wrote the book because this

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has been such a profusion of cranial

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deformation being performed in many

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different cultures and so I've been able

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to more or less figure out what culture

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is related to another culture to some

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degree based on the fact that they

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but can you are you doing that based on

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the technique that they're using yeah

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the the the basic technique used in Peru

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and Bolivia again is where a text were a

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newborn child of royal blood their head

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is bound with a textile and then over

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time the textile is the pressure is

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increased and board is put usually in

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the back and sometimes in the front and

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in the course of two to three years once

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the skull calcifies properly then that

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child has that shape permanently it just

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seems like it would be a painful and

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uncomfortable process to put an infant

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through well the thing is since you're

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dealing with Royal children whoever is

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doing this practice would have to be an

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absolute expert because if you were to

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induce a lot of pain in a royal child

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you might wind up dead or if you have to

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if you happen to make a mistake in the /

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in the process and kill the royal child

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then I think he would definitely be dead

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so I I get the feeling that it was such

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a gradual procedure done by absolute

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experts that you know I think especially

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the practice culture had had absolutely

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mastered this process and I I don't

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think there would have been that much

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pain involved taking it into account the

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level of society that you're in doing

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and do seeing this honor or working with

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I don't know even just looking at it

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kind of gives me a headache so thinking

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okay well let's kind of turn our

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attention to Peru and Bolivia you know

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and I'm just kind of I'm just trying to

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like map stuff out in my mind have you

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found any relationships between where

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skulls have been found

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some of the ancient sites that are in

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those regions definitely I think the

401
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most possibly the most important one is

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you know the mysterious place called

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tiwanaku which some of your listeners

404
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may have heard of Pumapunku is part of

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that complex it's a very mysterious

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stone series of stone structures that

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could not have been made initially by

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the so-called tiwa knockin people but

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the the the tihuanaco culture existed

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between about 100 AD and 900 AD and the

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culture that came before them but lived

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farther south were called the wonka rani

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and they had massively elongated skulls

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so it's my belief that the wonka Ronnie

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migrated north to the site called

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tihuanaco which is on the southern shore

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of Lake Titicaca in Bolivia and they

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became the tihuanaco culture and I also

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believe that the Inca culture then

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sprang forth from the tihuanaco culture

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and what almost nobody knows is that the

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the ink of themselves performed cranial

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deformation it was a practice that was

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outlawed as soon as the Spanish reached

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cuzco they were horrified by this and so

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they they forbid it happening so it was

427
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only the very first contact of the

428
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Spanish with the Inca that they would

429
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have seen any examples of the Inca

430
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having elongated skulls and after that

431
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the the rest of the Inca generations

432
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would simply have looked normal you know

433
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quote unquote yet because I guess they

434
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basically took out the government which

435
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would have been the all the Royals and

436
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once you started going into the outskirt

437
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areas they probably weren't practicing

438
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it or it was not as important in the

439
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outlying regions yeah again it was only

440
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done to the Inca royalty and the Spanish

441
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outlawed it as soon as they arrived in

442
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Cuzco which was the capital city of the

443
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Inca and some of the Inca continued to

444
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practice it and so another law was set

445
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those stinky explorers just messing

446
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everything up so you gave some dates of

447
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the general dating of elongated skulls

448
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around the world what about in South

449
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America has it do we have any dating

450
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ideas for some of the skulls found there

451
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yeah one or two examples have been found

452
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the date back to either 6,000 BC or

453
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6,000 years ago they were they were

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found in a cave in central Peru but

455
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they're not really profound looking

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that's again it's just simple cradle

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boarding or binding creating a slightly

458
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different shape but what's more

459
00:24:33,770 --> 00:24:30,840
important is this migration from central

460
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Bolivia up to the shore of Lake Titicaca

461
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and then from there up to Cuzco which

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was the capital city of the Inca and all

463
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of the other cultures I've found

464
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relationships chronologically between

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basically those Highland groups of the

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of the tihuanaco ins and their influence

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with others but the most obscure and to

468
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me fascinating ones are the Baracus

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people who lived on the coast of Peru

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and basically disappeared two thousand

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years ago their origin being completely

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unknown so you don't think they were

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associated with the Tiahuanaco at all i

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no i don't think so i think what

475
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happened was when the Baracus culture

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basically began to disappear about 2,000

477
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years ago I think some of them migrated

478
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into the Highlands and the elongated

479
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skull aspect was something which in

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which also influenced cultures in the

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highlands

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do you think the paraca culture was

483
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before the Tiahuanaco yeah even with

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conventional archeology they're talking

485
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about the practice appearing as a

486
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culture 800 BC so that's about eight

487
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hundred years before to unaku formed as

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a culture itself I find that dating

489
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interesting so now I'm going to ask some

490
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non elongated skull questions were they

491
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associated with domestication of animals

492
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and beginning of agriculture in that

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region also the Baracus people uh-huh

494
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well the weird thing about the you know

495
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that what fascinates me is that almost

496
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nobody has studied the practice for

497
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about 50 years and not only taking the

498
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elongated skull thing into account they

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had they were very a very advanced

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society they had mastered agriculture

501
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800 around 800 BC again origins unknown

502
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they were masters at making the finest

503
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textiles in all of South America they

504
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knew the concept of the potter's wheel

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they also had red reddish-brown hair

506
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which is not typically Native American

507
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and that's not common in that region

508
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it's only gone there it's only common in

509
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but that might just be people that

510
00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:25,289
immigrated or you know move where where

511
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is progress you know if you were going

512
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to give us a landmark of where practice

513
00:27:35,810 --> 00:27:32,940
was where would that be okay well Peru

514
00:27:38,029 --> 00:27:35,820
is the third country down in South

515
00:27:41,299 --> 00:27:38,039
America on the west coast you start with

516
00:27:44,930 --> 00:27:41,309
Colombia then you go to Ecuador and then

517
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:44,940
you go to Peru and Peru is about a

518
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thousand miles long the coastline is

519
00:27:51,830 --> 00:27:50,100
about that length and Lima

520
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huh which is the capital city is about

521
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halfway down so if you travel by car for

522
00:28:01,250 --> 00:27:58,470
hours south you reach the Baracus

523
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Peninsula which is just before you reach

524
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the area called Nazca where the

525
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fascinating lines and geoglyphs are were

526
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they the ones responsible for the lines

527
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:12,570
in the geoglyphs they were responsible

528
00:28:16,690 --> 00:28:14,490
for starting them yes actually that's

529
00:28:19,690 --> 00:28:16,700
another story that most people don't

530
00:28:23,210 --> 00:28:19,700
understand I I wrote another book about

531
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:23,220
the Nazca Douglas and lines because it

532
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was the practice who began making them

533
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around conventionally speaking 500 BC

534
00:28:37,370 --> 00:28:33,900
and then with their demise about 100 BC

535
00:28:40,490 --> 00:28:37,380
or 180 then the Nazca culture becomes

536
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:40,500
dominant and then they continue creating

537
00:28:47,090 --> 00:28:42,090
the lines and geoglyphs in a

538
00:28:48,770 --> 00:28:47,100
southeasterly direction but I find that

539
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:48,780
interesting because one of the things

540
00:28:57,409 --> 00:28:52,770
that i also know i know is that one of

541
00:29:00,409 --> 00:28:57,419
the three oldest ochre mines was also

542
00:29:04,159 --> 00:29:00,419
found in that region the oldest and

543
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:04,169
biggest okra with one being in South

544
00:29:08,779 --> 00:29:06,450
America one being in Australia one of my

545
00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:08,789
favorite countries and one being in in

546
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:12,809
the NAS go region that's interesting in

547
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:15,330
Nazca the Nazca area which is complete

548
00:29:21,830 --> 00:29:17,690
desert is actually very rich in in

549
00:29:23,690 --> 00:29:21,840
minerals including gold and actually the

550
00:29:26,060 --> 00:29:23,700
practice area has a lot of okra that's

551
00:29:27,770 --> 00:29:26,070
true I've we found some as we've been

552
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:27,780
traveling in the desert you find red

553
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:31,970
ochre yellow ochre and even white ochre

554
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:41,930
that it all kind of to me okay to me it

555
00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:43,250
seems like there are these little

556
00:29:50,210 --> 00:29:47,039
centers where you find these little up

557
00:29:52,690 --> 00:29:50,220
spurts of stuff all condensed and it

558
00:29:56,810 --> 00:29:52,700
sounds like Baracus is one of those

559
00:29:58,159 --> 00:29:56,820
epicenters well most definitely and one

560
00:30:03,260 --> 00:29:58,169
of the intriguing things about the

561
00:30:03,740 --> 00:30:03,270
agriculture is Baracus and the area get

562
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:03,750
less

563
00:30:09,740 --> 00:30:07,440
than one inch of rain a year but water

564
00:30:11,810 --> 00:30:09,750
travels in underground streams and

565
00:30:14,690 --> 00:30:11,820
rivers from the highlands of Peru to the

566
00:30:16,910 --> 00:30:14,700
east even as far as the Andes and then

567
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:16,920
empty into the ocean so the practice

568
00:30:22,220 --> 00:30:19,410
were able to access the underground

569
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:22,230
water and they actually made their

570
00:30:29,300 --> 00:30:26,130
fields down about six feet from them

571
00:30:32,930 --> 00:30:29,310
from the typical landscape in order to

572
00:30:34,370 --> 00:30:32,940
catch these underground streams and

573
00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:34,380
rivers that were traveling to the sea

574
00:30:41,540 --> 00:30:37,110
and so they actually grew phenomenal

575
00:30:43,900 --> 00:30:41,550
amounts of food so another engineering

576
00:30:47,230 --> 00:30:43,910
feat that we really don't hear about

577
00:30:50,030 --> 00:30:47,240
exactly and it this also ties in with

578
00:30:54,140 --> 00:30:50,040
why some of the Nazca lines were made

579
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:54,150
because there are at least five or ten

580
00:30:59,690 --> 00:30:57,450
major theories about why you know why a

581
00:31:01,300 --> 00:30:59,700
people would create these geoglyphs and

582
00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:01,310
lines in the middle of the desert

583
00:31:08,420 --> 00:31:06,510
anything from astronomy to aliens but

584
00:31:12,290 --> 00:31:08,430
that's why I wrote my book because it's

585
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:12,300
a study of a thousand years of produce

586
00:31:17,030 --> 00:31:14,210
production of these lines and geoglyphs

587
00:31:19,970 --> 00:31:17,040
for different reasons depending upon the

588
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:19,980
culture and depending upon the reasoning

589
00:31:33,140 --> 00:31:29,370
at the time so why do why do you think

590
00:31:37,820 --> 00:31:33,150
that they created them well it really

591
00:31:41,150 --> 00:31:37,830
depends on on the timeframe the whole

592
00:31:43,660 --> 00:31:41,160
system of lines and geoglyphs begins at

593
00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:43,670
practice itself in the northwest and

594
00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:48,510
travels down at least 200 miles I think

595
00:31:55,010 --> 00:31:51,600
in a southeasterly direction through the

596
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:55,020
burn asca area and the one of the

597
00:32:00,200 --> 00:31:57,450
largest figures is called the candelabra

598
00:32:02,990 --> 00:32:00,210
which looks like a fork or a trident on

599
00:32:07,220 --> 00:32:03,000
the side of a mountain that can only be

600
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:07,230
seen from the ocean gives you thoughts

601
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:10,650
of Neptune doesn't it well it gives you

602
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:15,810
thoughts of a maritime beacon or a giant

603
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:16,930
symbol

604
00:32:23,150 --> 00:32:19,090
that a seafaring people would want to

605
00:32:26,940 --> 00:32:23,160
use in order to find home oh good point

606
00:32:28,890 --> 00:32:26,950
good point and so and you can see it

607
00:32:30,810 --> 00:32:28,900
from the water so it's not like the

608
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:30,820
other glyphs that you really need to be

609
00:32:36,420 --> 00:32:34,450
in the air in order to view that's right

610
00:32:40,350 --> 00:32:36,430
yeah you can only see this one from the

611
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:40,360
ocean and you can see it at least 15

612
00:32:51,660 --> 00:32:46,770
miles away it's no oh it's 450 feet tall

613
00:32:53,630 --> 00:32:51,670
but 15 miles is far it is but then you

614
00:32:56,250 --> 00:32:53,640
know it's a really intriguing area the

615
00:32:58,860 --> 00:32:56,260
it's been it wasn't like carved into

616
00:33:02,040 --> 00:32:58,870
sand it was carved into a light or a

617
00:33:04,530 --> 00:33:02,050
soft sandstone which has a lot of salt

618
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:04,540
in it because the practice area was the

619
00:33:13,020 --> 00:33:10,050
ocean that was uplifted during major

620
00:33:16,380 --> 00:33:13,030
earth changes and so there's a lot of

621
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:16,390
salt still in that sand so when the Sun

622
00:33:23,850 --> 00:33:19,210
reflects or when the sun is shining it

623
00:33:26,750 --> 00:33:23,860
makes the the contours contrast much

624
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:26,760
greater than if it was any other kind of

625
00:33:32,700 --> 00:33:29,890
sandy material so you can see it from

626
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:32,710
quite a distance and even in a full moon

627
00:33:38,630 --> 00:33:35,650
you can see it from a distance oh I bet

628
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:38,640
that's cool yeah but that's called

629
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:40,810
alright I'm going to shift here gears

630
00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:44,650
here a little bit I know that remains of

631
00:33:51,450 --> 00:33:47,200
infants or very young children with

632
00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:51,460
elongated skulls have been found and I'm

633
00:33:55,020 --> 00:33:52,960
assuming you've seen them well actually

634
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:55,030
I've seen you with a picture holding one

635
00:34:00,510 --> 00:33:57,490
or you know you posted pictures how

636
00:34:04,950 --> 00:34:00,520
young is it believed that the youngest

637
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:04,960
child was before he or she passed well

638
00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:09,370
the youngest i've seen you know I'm not

639
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:12,310
a doctor obviously but at a guess I

640
00:34:17,430 --> 00:34:14,770
would say easily less than a year and

641
00:34:22,380 --> 00:34:17,440
that's in a really tiny museum right

642
00:34:26,220 --> 00:34:22,390
next to the Nazca airport and that that

643
00:34:30,070 --> 00:34:26,230
little child has an elongated skull and

644
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:30,080
also has reddish blond hair

645
00:34:40,660 --> 00:34:34,010
Oh see you get a double on that one oh

646
00:34:44,650 --> 00:34:40,670
yeah are there any other anomalies with

647
00:34:46,570 --> 00:34:44,660
this skeleton not with that one but

648
00:34:50,830 --> 00:34:46,580
there are other ones there's there's

649
00:34:53,110 --> 00:34:50,840
another one which is in one of the cusco

650
00:34:56,350 --> 00:34:53,120
museums and it again appears to be

651
00:34:58,390 --> 00:34:56,360
between 12 and 14 months old and it is

652
00:35:02,440 --> 00:34:58,400
literally a coat like it is a Dan

653
00:35:06,010 --> 00:35:02,450
Aykroyd conehead shape and then the most

654
00:35:10,030 --> 00:35:06,020
intriguing one is in a small Museum

655
00:35:13,390 --> 00:35:10,040
outside of Cusco and its skull is the

656
00:35:17,470 --> 00:35:13,400
size of its torso and it was medically

657
00:35:21,250 --> 00:35:17,480
examined by six doctors in in Cusco in a

658
00:35:23,140 --> 00:35:21,260
private hospital almost a year ago and

659
00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:23,150
they were just confounded by it they

660
00:35:27,310 --> 00:35:25,040
couldn't figure out what what it is they

661
00:35:30,100 --> 00:35:27,320
were looking at they definitely ruled

662
00:35:32,530 --> 00:35:30,110
out cranial deformation they they all

663
00:35:35,050 --> 00:35:32,540
agreed that this child was born with

664
00:35:38,500 --> 00:35:35,060
this very large skull that it was very

665
00:35:41,710 --> 00:35:38,510
natural looking and it has a number of

666
00:35:45,580 --> 00:35:41,720
different anatomical features which do

667
00:35:52,620 --> 00:35:45,590
not make sense whatsoever to anyone who

668
00:35:56,470 --> 00:35:52,630
has studied normal human anatomy such as

669
00:35:59,800 --> 00:35:56,480
well is just that way oh I love it well

670
00:36:03,010 --> 00:35:59,810
no such such as the most obvious example

671
00:36:06,100 --> 00:36:03,020
is that the skull is literally the size

672
00:36:09,460 --> 00:36:06,110
of the torso and the doctors have ruled

673
00:36:12,850 --> 00:36:09,470
out any no disease such as hydrocephaly

674
00:36:15,330 --> 00:36:12,860
etc the eye sockets are very shallow so

675
00:36:18,790 --> 00:36:15,340
they believe that the the eyeballs

676
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:18,800
literally protruded outwards from from

677
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:22,850
the skull it only has 10 sets of ribs

678
00:36:32,050 --> 00:36:25,850
where it should have 12 the rib cage

679
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:32,060
appears to be upside down what else the

680
00:36:38,950 --> 00:36:34,610
dentition is very strange the teeth

681
00:36:43,330 --> 00:36:38,960
appear to be from quite older individual

682
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:43,340
and they also found evidence that

683
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:46,730
this child was ritually sacrificed by

684
00:36:53,350 --> 00:36:50,650
receiving a blow in the back of the head

685
00:36:56,620 --> 00:36:53,360
that's because it was the alien devil

686
00:36:58,450 --> 00:36:56,630
child well it was the weird one of a

687
00:37:01,230 --> 00:36:58,460
kind in the village child that's for

688
00:37:04,210 --> 00:37:01,240
sure you did have red hair too

689
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:04,220
unfortunately there's there's no no hair

690
00:37:13,630 --> 00:37:11,570
left yeah okay so let's kind of put that

691
00:37:16,150 --> 00:37:13,640
one to the side because it's you know

692
00:37:18,250 --> 00:37:16,160
even more of an anomaly but the other

693
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:18,260
two that you were talking about I mean

694
00:37:25,630 --> 00:37:22,610
is a year enough time do you think with

695
00:37:30,750 --> 00:37:25,640
using the you know cranial modification

696
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:30,760
to produce a skull that to be that shape

697
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:34,250
well the doctors that I've taken to

698
00:37:41,470 --> 00:37:36,610
these museums to look at them are just

699
00:37:43,690 --> 00:37:41,480
astonished because some some believe

700
00:37:45,490 --> 00:37:43,700
that the you know that the process would

701
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:45,500
have killed the child but also they

702
00:37:50,710 --> 00:37:47,930
can't in those two cases they can't see

703
00:37:52,450 --> 00:37:50,720
how the cranial deformation was done

704
00:37:55,210 --> 00:37:52,460
because the skulls look too natural

705
00:37:57,100 --> 00:37:55,220
they're very complex in terms of

706
00:38:00,730 --> 00:37:57,110
curvature they're not simply flattened

707
00:38:03,250 --> 00:38:00,740
they are you know multifaceted Multi

708
00:38:05,470 --> 00:38:03,260
multi faceted in terms of curvature and

709
00:38:10,090 --> 00:38:05,480
so they just shake their heads when they

710
00:38:13,030 --> 00:38:10,100
look at them because they can't figure

711
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:13,040
out well let me ask a different question

712
00:38:20,530 --> 00:38:17,690
you know we've seen one of adults you

713
00:38:22,390 --> 00:38:20,540
know if we've looked at you know any of

714
00:38:24,100 --> 00:38:22,400
the elongated skull pictures they've all

715
00:38:25,990 --> 00:38:24,110
seemed like a dolt and then there are

716
00:38:30,490 --> 00:38:26,000
the couple that you know look like

717
00:38:33,580 --> 00:38:30,500
little infants are there ones that are

718
00:38:36,310 --> 00:38:33,590
in between you know 10 12 year old

719
00:38:41,020 --> 00:38:36,320
children that have been compound sure

720
00:38:43,060 --> 00:38:41,030
yeah the most common the most common

721
00:38:48,010 --> 00:38:43,070
ones are actually appear to be in their

722
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:48,020
20s 30s 40s or older and 1 i'm still

723
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:49,730
trying to track down is there's a

724
00:38:56,250 --> 00:38:52,970
drawing of an eight-year-old or sorry

725
00:38:59,520 --> 00:38:56,260
eight-month-old fetus that was

726
00:39:02,400 --> 00:38:59,530
drawn about a hundred years ago and that

727
00:39:04,710 --> 00:39:02,410
one again the the head is the size of

728
00:39:08,660 --> 00:39:04,720
the body but I have been able to find

729
00:39:11,190 --> 00:39:08,670
out where the where this fetus is

730
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:11,200
theoretically it's in one of the

731
00:39:17,730 --> 00:39:15,210
warehouses of the main Museum in Lima

732
00:39:21,930 --> 00:39:17,740
but that that one I would like to

733
00:39:28,170 --> 00:39:21,940
definitely find I'm not going to make my

734
00:39:29,790 --> 00:39:28,180
comment okay but wait a minute wait a

735
00:39:34,620 --> 00:39:29,800
minute I I'm thinking about what you

736
00:39:37,610 --> 00:39:34,630
just said you said fetus yep so like

737
00:39:42,270 --> 00:39:37,620
that would be like a child that's not

738
00:39:45,780 --> 00:39:42,280
born yet that is a child that could not

739
00:39:49,170 --> 00:39:45,790
have had its skull cranially deformed it

740
00:39:54,690 --> 00:39:49,180
would have to come out of mom you know

741
00:39:59,580 --> 00:39:54,700
with those features that's kind of

742
00:40:01,140 --> 00:39:59,590
interesting okay so this question has

743
00:40:03,930 --> 00:40:01,150
been floating around the chat room but I

744
00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:03,940
just keep ignoring it so is there the

745
00:40:12,300 --> 00:40:09,730
possibility that there that the skulls

746
00:40:16,890 --> 00:40:12,310
that we see or a percentage of the

747
00:40:20,390 --> 00:40:16,900
skulls that we see are natural that's

748
00:40:23,070 --> 00:40:20,400
what I'm starting to believe i would say

749
00:40:29,790 --> 00:40:23,080
maybe two or three percent of the ones

750
00:40:31,890 --> 00:40:29,800
that I've seen defy any any possibility

751
00:40:34,950 --> 00:40:31,900
that they could have been some form of

752
00:40:37,170 --> 00:40:34,960
cradle boarding org or deformation

753
00:40:41,220 --> 00:40:37,180
because they they appear to be very

754
00:40:42,570 --> 00:40:41,230
natural and complex looking the feature

755
00:40:45,740 --> 00:40:42,580
you know that all the curves and

756
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:45,750
features are very beautiful they're not

757
00:40:52,910 --> 00:40:50,050
contorted or flattened or altered like

758
00:40:57,330 --> 00:40:52,920
what cranial deformation usually

759
00:40:59,250 --> 00:40:57,340
produces so I think you know I honestly

760
00:41:04,680 --> 00:40:59,260
believe that at least in Peru and

761
00:41:07,860 --> 00:41:04,690
Bolivia the lineage goes back to a sub

762
00:41:15,069 --> 00:41:07,870
race or a subset of humanity that was

763
00:41:21,859 --> 00:41:19,130
but okay all right that kind of add like

764
00:41:25,730 --> 00:41:21,869
this whole other big twist to the whole

765
00:41:30,170 --> 00:41:25,740
thing because if they were born with

766
00:41:36,020 --> 00:41:30,180
elongated skulls then it would imply to

767
00:41:39,290 --> 00:41:36,030
me that it was based on interaction with

768
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:39,300
those people that the cultures around

769
00:41:47,020 --> 00:41:41,130
the world started creating you know

770
00:41:57,380 --> 00:41:51,950
could it be that Barack asst was an

771
00:41:59,420 --> 00:41:57,390
originating location for Humanity no I

772
00:42:01,250 --> 00:41:59,430
think they were the end I think they

773
00:42:08,359 --> 00:42:01,260
were the end of the line I I think they

774
00:42:11,900 --> 00:42:08,369
were the last of a sub sub species of

775
00:42:14,390 --> 00:42:11,910
people that migrated to practice from

776
00:42:20,300 --> 00:42:14,400
another part of the world possibly to

777
00:42:25,180 --> 00:42:20,310
escape persecution of some kind but you

778
00:42:30,650 --> 00:42:25,190
have not heard of or experienced other

779
00:42:33,710 --> 00:42:30,660
skulls that had the same characteristics

780
00:42:36,140 --> 00:42:33,720
in other places in the world yeah not

781
00:42:39,290 --> 00:42:36,150
not the actual skulls themselves but a

782
00:42:45,050 --> 00:42:39,300
lot of artistic depictions especially in

783
00:42:47,870 --> 00:42:45,060
the Middle East what show elongated

784
00:42:51,170 --> 00:42:47,880
skull people yeah very much we were in

785
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:51,180
Lebanon and I think it was April just

786
00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:53,280
after we finished our tour of Egypt and

787
00:42:59,270 --> 00:42:57,119
a lot of the of the ancient artifacts in

788
00:43:02,329 --> 00:42:59,280
the museum there showed either

789
00:43:05,690 --> 00:43:02,339
portrayals of people with enormous

790
00:43:09,950 --> 00:43:05,700
conehead hats or Coneheads themselves

791
00:43:13,460 --> 00:43:09,960
and I think that's the beginning of that

792
00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:13,470
of the smoking gun of a the possible

793
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:17,040
origin place is a rat is in the middle

794
00:43:23,559 --> 00:43:21,450
eastern area do you also find the

795
00:43:26,769 --> 00:43:23,569
red-headed people

796
00:43:28,509 --> 00:43:26,779
in that region also yeah well the great

797
00:43:31,449 --> 00:43:28,519
thing is that the origin of red hair is

798
00:43:34,689 --> 00:43:31,459
Iraq Iran and Afghanistan it's not

799
00:43:38,859 --> 00:43:34,699
ireland in Scotland so you still have a

800
00:43:43,329 --> 00:43:38,869
lot of people to this day who in those

801
00:43:45,729 --> 00:43:43,339
countries who have reddish hair

802
00:43:47,979 --> 00:43:45,739
sometimes usually reddish auburn hair

803
00:43:50,739 --> 00:43:47,989
not carrot you know not carrot tops like

804
00:43:54,999 --> 00:43:50,749
like the iris in the Scots but a deep

805
00:44:00,729 --> 00:43:55,009
rich red which especially in sunlight is

806
00:44:03,489 --> 00:44:00,739
almost like fire okay and that you know

807
00:44:07,089 --> 00:44:03,499
can I'm sorry and that's exactly what we

808
00:44:09,729 --> 00:44:07,099
find in Baracus the Royal people of

809
00:44:12,249 --> 00:44:09,739
practice all the examples I've seen that

810
00:44:15,309 --> 00:44:12,259
actually still have hair attached to

811
00:44:22,539 --> 00:44:15,319
their elongated skulls it's dark red

812
00:44:24,819 --> 00:44:22,549
Auburn not black okay but it's also not

813
00:44:27,999 --> 00:44:24,829
bright red like you would think you know

814
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:28,009
and I an Irish person you know a ginger

815
00:44:34,509 --> 00:44:31,249
would have no nor anyone who is like

816
00:44:38,739 --> 00:44:34,519
Viking or Nordic or whatever it's it's a

817
00:44:41,380 --> 00:44:38,749
very specific shade and in kuta in

818
00:44:43,390 --> 00:44:41,390
places like cusco and other parts of the

819
00:44:45,789 --> 00:44:43,400
highlands of peru and bolivia I've met

820
00:44:48,430 --> 00:44:45,799
people who have that hair color and I've

821
00:44:49,989 --> 00:44:48,440
been cocky enough to go up to them and

822
00:44:51,819 --> 00:44:49,999
ask them have you dyed your hair and

823
00:44:52,930 --> 00:44:51,829
they go no this is this comes from you

824
00:44:56,579 --> 00:44:52,940
know this is my mother's side of the

825
00:45:02,670 --> 00:44:56,589
family it's it goes way back in time

826
00:45:05,799 --> 00:45:02,680
long before the Spanish ever arrived hmm

827
00:45:08,229 --> 00:45:05,809
yeah I love this connection with the red

828
00:45:12,130 --> 00:45:08,239
hair you know I mean I don't know from a

829
00:45:15,609 --> 00:45:12,140
genetic point of view you know if having

830
00:45:19,059 --> 00:45:15,619
red hair is some you know that kind of

831
00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:19,069
color if there's like you know if it's

832
00:45:23,229 --> 00:45:21,440
recessive thing or a dominant thing or

833
00:45:26,319 --> 00:45:23,239
you have to have like a certain mix in

834
00:45:28,390 --> 00:45:26,329
order for your hair to be that color or

835
00:45:31,150 --> 00:45:28,400
whatever but I think it's an interesting

836
00:45:35,529 --> 00:45:31,160
thread that you keep pulling through

837
00:45:36,370 --> 00:45:35,539
things yet another marker well it is

838
00:45:38,259 --> 00:45:36,380
because

839
00:45:42,849 --> 00:45:38,269
you know I spent quite a bit of time in

840
00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:42,859
Polynesia and there in New Zealand

841
00:45:50,519 --> 00:45:46,400
Tahiti Easter Island and Hawaii they

842
00:45:54,279 --> 00:45:50,529
they also have this ancient strain of

843
00:45:58,720 --> 00:45:54,289
this reddish hair which is most likely

844
00:46:02,259 --> 00:45:58,730
pre pre so-called Polynesian we do know

845
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:02,269
that in New Zealand most likely and

846
00:46:07,660 --> 00:46:05,210
Tahiti and Easter Island and Hawaii

847
00:46:10,749 --> 00:46:07,670
there were people living in those places

848
00:46:12,970 --> 00:46:10,759
before the major poli me Polynesian

849
00:46:18,339 --> 00:46:12,980
migrations took place and these people

850
00:46:23,289 --> 00:46:18,349
are what they call a who which means red

851
00:46:25,630 --> 00:46:23,299
hair reddish hair what about Australia

852
00:46:28,769 --> 00:46:25,640
is there do you know if they have any

853
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:28,779
populations that have the red hair to

854
00:46:36,579 --> 00:46:32,210
know all I found out recently is that

855
00:46:39,370 --> 00:46:36,589
there are a number of elongated skulls

856
00:46:42,249 --> 00:46:39,380
that have been found in a particular

857
00:46:46,210 --> 00:46:42,259
area I believe in between Sydney and

858
00:46:49,539 --> 00:46:46,220
Melbourne inland and they they don't

859
00:46:51,039 --> 00:46:49,549
appear to be related to the Aboriginal

860
00:46:52,210 --> 00:46:51,049
people whatsoever you know the

861
00:46:56,980 --> 00:46:52,220
Aboriginal people have lived there

862
00:47:00,130 --> 00:46:56,990
40,000 to 60,000 years but there there

863
00:47:04,450 --> 00:47:00,140
seems to have been another race of

864
00:47:07,660 --> 00:47:04,460
people living in in Australia thousands

865
00:47:10,930 --> 00:47:07,670
of years before it was discovered by

866
00:47:12,759 --> 00:47:10,940
Europeans and and these people most

867
00:47:15,490 --> 00:47:12,769
likely are not related to the Aborigines

868
00:47:17,140 --> 00:47:15,500
whatsoever see that's kind of

869
00:47:18,910 --> 00:47:17,150
mind-blowing I haven't heard that little

870
00:47:21,009 --> 00:47:18,920
piece of information that there was yet

871
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:21,019
a different group than the Aborigines

872
00:47:25,809 --> 00:47:23,930
all right different question I don't

873
00:47:29,710 --> 00:47:25,819
mean to keep going off okay so they have

874
00:47:32,019 --> 00:47:29,720
this red hair going on what about excuse

875
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:32,029
me skin tone I mean if I think of

876
00:47:36,670 --> 00:47:34,970
someone that is from South America I

877
00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:36,680
would think they would have you know and

878
00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:39,200
all of the kind of skin tone with a

879
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:45,049
maybe curly wavy kind of hair I mean not

880
00:47:50,500 --> 00:47:49,130
you know a nappy hair kind of thing I'm

881
00:47:52,060 --> 00:47:50,510
do you find those

882
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:52,070
same characteristics and some of these

883
00:47:59,770 --> 00:47:56,330
other groups well unfortunately we

884
00:48:02,950 --> 00:47:59,780
haven't been able to find any examples

885
00:48:05,500 --> 00:48:02,960
of skin which you know has not become

886
00:48:07,870 --> 00:48:05,510
heavily discolored as in black and

887
00:48:11,500 --> 00:48:07,880
through time because you're talking

888
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:11,510
about people who are 2,000 plus years

889
00:48:18,670 --> 00:48:16,610
old but genetically speaking it from

890
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:18,680
what I've learned it's likely that

891
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:22,250
anyone who has reddish brown hair has

892
00:48:28,060 --> 00:48:24,730
would have a lighter complexion and

893
00:48:30,460 --> 00:48:28,070
possibly not brown eyes which are

894
00:48:34,060 --> 00:48:30,470
typical to Native Americans but possibly

895
00:48:36,730 --> 00:48:34,070
greenish or even blue but we would have

896
00:48:39,310 --> 00:48:36,740
to find a perfect money in order to be

897
00:48:42,910 --> 00:48:39,320
able to prove that mm-hmm well I was

898
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:42,920
just thinking in the more current groups

899
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:47,210
in Polynesia you know if what they look

900
00:48:53,050 --> 00:48:50,570
like you know if there was I mean I know

901
00:48:56,260 --> 00:48:53,060
you know that I know that I think that

902
00:48:57,550 --> 00:48:56,270
there is you know groups that have gone

903
00:48:59,170 --> 00:48:57,560
all around and that there are

904
00:49:01,540 --> 00:48:59,180
connections between different races

905
00:49:03,310 --> 00:49:01,550
around the world and so I just from

906
00:49:04,870 --> 00:49:03,320
going okay so if we have this in South

907
00:49:07,810 --> 00:49:04,880
America and we have something similar

908
00:49:09,490 --> 00:49:07,820
you know what do they look like here

909
00:49:11,590 --> 00:49:09,500
because maybe it could give us an answer

910
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:11,600
to what's going on over there that was

911
00:49:21,259 --> 00:49:16,370
kind of where I was going to win yeah so

912
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:25,049
so I understand that there's some really

913
00:49:32,910 --> 00:49:27,970
really new groundbreaking information

914
00:49:34,740 --> 00:49:32,920
that you just gotten ahold of which I

915
00:49:37,519 --> 00:49:34,750
don't really know what it is and it

916
00:49:40,769 --> 00:49:37,529
maybe you'll talk about it a little bit

917
00:49:44,099 --> 00:49:40,779
well one unfortunate thing is half an

918
00:49:46,069 --> 00:49:44,109
hour before I came on air with you I was

919
00:49:48,450 --> 00:49:46,079
told by the people who were actually

920
00:49:51,180 --> 00:49:48,460
doing the research that I'm not allowed

921
00:49:55,109 --> 00:49:51,190
to talk about it but what I can't

922
00:49:56,910 --> 00:49:55,119
specifically but what I can tell you and

923
00:50:01,680 --> 00:49:56,920
because of you know a lot of people have

924
00:50:03,690 --> 00:50:01,690
been intrigued with with the DNA testing

925
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:03,700
that we've been attempting to do and

926
00:50:12,690 --> 00:50:07,200
it's been three years of complications

927
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:12,700
and nefarious activities and all sorts

928
00:50:18,180 --> 00:50:14,890
of things going on but what I did find

929
00:50:22,319 --> 00:50:18,190
out today was that the testing that

930
00:50:25,650 --> 00:50:22,329
we're planning on doing has moved

931
00:50:29,539 --> 00:50:25,660
another step forward in that it looks

932
00:50:35,339 --> 00:50:29,549
like we will have government approval to

933
00:50:38,460 --> 00:50:35,349
in Peru to have testing of Baracus

934
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:38,470
elongated skulls performed so that

935
00:50:44,759 --> 00:50:41,890
samples can be sent to laboratories in

936
00:50:47,819 --> 00:50:44,769
other countries for the actual DNA

937
00:50:50,990 --> 00:50:47,829
testing because they're there is no DNA

938
00:50:56,519 --> 00:50:51,000
testing facility in Peru that can handle

939
00:51:00,259 --> 00:50:56,529
ancient DNA nor are there any carbon 14

940
00:51:03,509 --> 00:51:00,269
labs or anything of that nature so

941
00:51:06,859 --> 00:51:03,519
that's very much a positive note and

942
00:51:10,079 --> 00:51:06,869
we're getting Inklings that there are

943
00:51:13,380 --> 00:51:10,089
that there is partial ancestry from the

944
00:51:16,410 --> 00:51:13,390
Middle East on the coast of Peru and

945
00:51:18,359 --> 00:51:16,420
that somebody some group seemingly did

946
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:18,369
migrate from the Middle East to the

947
00:51:28,620 --> 00:51:21,490
coast of Peru then mixed with the native

948
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:28,630
population and so it's it's a theory

949
00:51:34,420 --> 00:51:32,170
that I've been working on for about

950
00:51:37,299 --> 00:51:34,430
three years and we

951
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:37,309
inklings that that is is the fact that

952
00:51:43,210 --> 00:51:40,970
the brackets ancestors didn't cross the

953
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:43,220
Bering Land Bridge and you know walk all

954
00:51:48,099 --> 00:51:45,650
the way down to the coast of Peru that

955
00:51:50,799 --> 00:51:48,109
but that at least part of their ancestry

956
00:51:53,079 --> 00:51:50,809
came by sea and most likely came from

957
00:52:00,059 --> 00:51:53,089
the Middle East over a long period of

958
00:52:06,790 --> 00:52:04,930
different I don't even know how to

959
00:52:09,250 --> 00:52:06,800
express this I mean there has been

960
00:52:12,990 --> 00:52:09,260
commentary that they were you know from

961
00:52:16,150 --> 00:52:13,000
China they were Mongols they were

962
00:52:18,250 --> 00:52:16,160
Polynesians they were you know all kinds

963
00:52:20,500 --> 00:52:18,260
of people this is the first time I'm

964
00:52:22,450 --> 00:52:20,510
hearing the Middle East and that just

965
00:52:27,549 --> 00:52:22,460
kind of puts it into a different cat

966
00:52:31,059 --> 00:52:27,559
they were Egyptian that's it well that's

967
00:52:34,210 --> 00:52:31,069
it's really interesting because also you

968
00:52:36,670 --> 00:52:34,220
might you know I've been a sailor most

969
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:36,680
of my life and so studying ancient

970
00:52:42,039 --> 00:52:39,890
migration patterns intrigues me and I I

971
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:42,049
regard ancient people as being at least

972
00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:44,450
as intelligent as we are not not a bunch

973
00:52:48,849 --> 00:52:46,880
of idiots who SAT around the campfire

974
00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:48,859
all day but that they have the

975
00:52:55,510 --> 00:52:52,730
capability of migrating great distances

976
00:52:58,359 --> 00:52:55,520
and so one curious notice that in the

977
00:53:01,599 --> 00:52:58,369
Solomon Islands which is you know which

978
00:53:05,049 --> 00:53:01,609
are in between i believe the Middle East

979
00:53:08,380 --> 00:53:05,059
and Australia you have Vanuatu and on

980
00:53:11,470 --> 00:53:08,390
Vanuatu and neighboring islands those

981
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:11,480
people practice cranial deformation so

982
00:53:16,359 --> 00:53:13,130
they don't they don't fit in the picture

983
00:53:19,809 --> 00:53:16,369
at all as regards the other groups

984
00:53:22,349 --> 00:53:19,819
unless you consult the oral tradition

985
00:53:25,870 --> 00:53:22,359
and I was able to find on the internet

986
00:53:29,380 --> 00:53:25,880
the right actually just a quote from an

987
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:29,390
old man from from that area from Vanuatu

988
00:53:35,020 --> 00:53:32,170
who said I don't care what

989
00:53:38,170 --> 00:53:35,030
archaeologists are archaeologists say

990
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:38,180
about my people that we traveled down

991
00:53:46,030 --> 00:53:41,210
the coast of Asia to reach this island

992
00:53:47,589 --> 00:53:46,040
my ancestors came from Egypt so bingo

993
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:47,599
there you have the possible connection

994
00:53:51,220 --> 00:53:48,170
between

995
00:53:55,780 --> 00:53:51,230
Egypt all the way through polynesia to

996
00:54:02,349 --> 00:53:55,790
the west coast of South America well

997
00:54:07,740 --> 00:54:02,359
okay but you know but that opens up

998
00:54:11,370 --> 00:54:07,750
whole other can of worms you know from

999
00:54:14,770 --> 00:54:11,380
you know i'm going to say more in a

1000
00:54:17,230 --> 00:54:14,780
technical point of view cultural point

1001
00:54:24,970 --> 00:54:17,240
of view because if you're saying that

1002
00:54:27,220 --> 00:54:24,980
the paratus people were from like 800 BC

1003
00:54:31,539 --> 00:54:27,230
or whatever I mean they sounded fairly

1004
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:31,549
recent you know Egypt have a lot more

1005
00:54:38,849 --> 00:54:33,530
technology than that they had writing

1006
00:54:42,539 --> 00:54:38,859
they had they built the pyramids come on

1007
00:54:44,289 --> 00:54:42,549
well that's that's well no they didn't I

1008
00:54:46,359 --> 00:54:44,299
guess I was just being a little

1009
00:54:49,240 --> 00:54:46,369
facetious there yeah that's a completely

1010
00:54:53,109 --> 00:54:49,250
different topic but not what I'm not

1011
00:54:56,559 --> 00:54:53,119
saying an Egyptian connection with with

1012
00:54:59,890 --> 00:54:56,569
South America I'm I'm talking about a

1013
00:55:01,930 --> 00:54:59,900
possible Middle Eastern connection but

1014
00:55:03,789 --> 00:55:01,940
it's just interesting that these people

1015
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:03,799
from Vanuatu or this man from Vanuatu

1016
00:55:08,230 --> 00:55:06,290
would say my ancestors are at least part

1017
00:55:11,349 --> 00:55:08,240
of them came to know came from Egypt we

1018
00:55:13,210 --> 00:55:11,359
didn't migrate down through career or

1019
00:55:15,039 --> 00:55:13,220
something like that and you know here

1020
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:15,049
and there and and that's where you you

1021
00:55:20,620 --> 00:55:18,170
know it's always interesting to if you

1022
00:55:23,309 --> 00:55:20,630
if it's possible to compare oral

1023
00:55:25,390 --> 00:55:23,319
tradition with what archaeologists are

1024
00:55:27,490 --> 00:55:25,400
archaeology tries to say because

1025
00:55:30,849 --> 00:55:27,500
sometimes there's an overlap and

1026
00:55:33,970 --> 00:55:30,859
sometimes there's a complete gap between

1027
00:55:37,950 --> 00:55:33,980
the two but i would take oral tradition

1028
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:37,960
over archaeology 24 hours a day because

1029
00:55:42,940 --> 00:55:40,490
people have a tendency to know their

1030
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:42,950
ancestors and who they were as compared

1031
00:55:47,170 --> 00:55:44,690
to somebody from a completely different

1032
00:55:51,700 --> 00:55:47,180
culture digging in the ground and making

1033
00:55:54,190 --> 00:55:51,710
presumptions about who somebody was well

1034
00:55:56,260 --> 00:55:54,200
that seems to be evident everywhere or

1035
00:55:59,020 --> 00:55:56,270
whatever where where they just like make

1036
00:56:00,520 --> 00:55:59,030
up stuff and put it out there and go oh

1037
00:56:01,870 --> 00:56:00,530
well this is what it is and they don't

1038
00:56:06,100 --> 00:56:01,880
have a clue what they're talking

1039
00:56:10,030 --> 00:56:06,110
out yeah they try to make things often

1040
00:56:13,870 --> 00:56:10,040
fit their theory even if it if it

1041
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:13,880
shouldn't such as well such as another

1042
00:56:20,110 --> 00:56:16,610
basic example is how did the you know

1043
00:56:23,620 --> 00:56:20,120
how how were the great stone figures on

1044
00:56:27,190 --> 00:56:23,630
Easter Island mood I know a quite a

1045
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:27,200
renowned royal person on Easter Island

1046
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:30,050
and she said no archaeologist has ever

1047
00:56:34,570 --> 00:56:32,690
come and asked our family how all of

1048
00:56:40,510 --> 00:56:34,580
this work was done they just make up

1049
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:40,520
their own theories and there you go if

1050
00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:42,650
you could you know if it actually asked

1051
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:45,200
the descendants you know how how did

1052
00:56:50,260 --> 00:56:47,090
your ancestors do this work then you

1053
00:56:51,460 --> 00:56:50,270
would have the the basis of a theory

1054
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:51,470
that you could work on rather than

1055
00:56:59,290 --> 00:56:57,170
making up your own but then in the same

1056
00:57:01,780 --> 00:56:59,300
breath they think that you know the

1057
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:01,790
people are idiots and don't really know

1058
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:03,530
their own history so they have to make

1059
00:57:08,410 --> 00:57:05,210
up a history for them and say well this

1060
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:08,420
is what happened yeah I know I know and

1061
00:57:11,230 --> 00:57:09,650
that's one of the most offense but

1062
00:57:14,940 --> 00:57:11,240
that's one of the reasons I do what I do

1063
00:57:17,170 --> 00:57:14,950
because I find that very offensive and

1064
00:57:19,150 --> 00:57:17,180
always have i've been involved with

1065
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:19,160
native people since i was a child and

1066
00:57:23,170 --> 00:57:21,410
have always respected that they have

1067
00:57:25,900 --> 00:57:23,180
knowledge of who they are and where they

1068
00:57:28,060 --> 00:57:25,910
came from and for an academic to simply

1069
00:57:30,100 --> 00:57:28,070
say well i won't interview these people

1070
00:57:33,250 --> 00:57:30,110
because i have a better theory than they

1071
00:57:38,170 --> 00:57:33,260
do is is really kind of weird it's

1072
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:38,180
insulting it is very um but let me ask

1073
00:57:41,140 --> 00:57:39,530
you this question i'm gonna kind of

1074
00:57:44,230 --> 00:57:41,150
change topic here i mean we're talking

1075
00:57:46,410 --> 00:57:44,240
about the elongated skulls and many

1076
00:57:49,690 --> 00:57:46,420
times people make the assumption that

1077
00:57:52,900 --> 00:57:49,700
when you see elongated skulls there are

1078
00:57:56,100 --> 00:57:52,910
instances of trepanation is that a

1079
00:58:00,000 --> 00:57:56,110
common occurrence or is that common or

1080
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:00,010
was trepanation done globally

1081
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:04,210
universally in people I wouldn't say

1082
00:58:10,060 --> 00:58:07,570
universally but it's another fascinating

1083
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:10,070
aspect of the practice people this

1084
00:58:15,089 --> 00:58:14,090
mysterious be policed civilization you

1085
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:15,099
know appears that

1086
00:58:22,109 --> 00:58:17,410
no we're eight around 800 bc they were

1087
00:58:25,799 --> 00:58:22,119
masters at brain surgery and some some

1088
00:58:29,940 --> 00:58:25,809
studies have of excavations in in

1089
00:58:33,630 --> 00:58:29,950
graveyards in Peru have shown that at

1090
00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:33,640
least fifty percent of the of the

1091
00:58:39,210 --> 00:58:36,400
patients who had cranial are who had

1092
00:58:42,509 --> 00:58:39,220
trepidation performed lived for a number

1093
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:42,519
of years after the surgery so that's

1094
00:58:47,849 --> 00:58:44,650
quite you know it's quite curious that a

1095
00:58:49,829 --> 00:58:47,859
so-called primitive people would have to

1096
00:58:51,979 --> 00:58:49,839
some degree mastered one of the most

1097
00:58:56,969 --> 00:58:51,989
difficult if not the most difficult

1098
00:59:00,359 --> 00:58:56,979
surgical operation known was there was

1099
00:59:06,870 --> 00:59:00,369
it more prevalent in the practice area

1100
00:59:10,190 --> 00:59:06,880
or was it found all over the region it's

1101
00:59:14,039 --> 00:59:10,200
it was quite quite prevalent in the

1102
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:14,049
Baracus Nazca area also to some degree

1103
00:59:22,950 --> 00:59:17,410
up around Lake Titicaca and amongst the

1104
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:22,960
Inca themselves I mean I just find that

1105
00:59:28,979 --> 00:59:25,690
fascinating you know I was reading this

1106
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:28,989
one thing that said that the number of

1107
00:59:35,309 --> 00:59:32,410
skulls that they found were it appears

1108
00:59:39,239 --> 00:59:35,319
that the person died from those cultures

1109
00:59:43,039 --> 00:59:39,249
was very few but when they try to do a

1110
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:43,049
similar procedure in more modern times

1111
00:59:53,789 --> 00:59:50,819
hygienic purposes you know like in the

1112
00:59:57,059 --> 00:59:53,799
1700s 1800s that the majority of the

1113
00:59:58,799 --> 00:59:57,069
people died well that's true and

1114
01:00:01,499 --> 00:59:58,809
actually there is evidence that the

1115
01:00:08,359 --> 01:00:01,509
fracas did did have anesthesia they used

1116
01:00:13,380 --> 01:00:08,369
coca relief which is and and as well as

1117
01:00:17,069 --> 01:00:13,390
corn beer to anesthetize the patient and

1118
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:17,079
also after because you know because of

1119
01:00:20,849 --> 01:00:19,450
course that's a terrible thing for

1120
01:00:23,279 --> 01:00:20,859
infection when you have something the

1121
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:23,289
size of it you know in some cases these

1122
01:00:28,329 --> 01:00:25,690
some the holes that were cut in discover

1123
01:00:32,700 --> 01:00:28,339
the size of a silver dollar and so how

1124
01:00:39,130 --> 01:00:36,039
killing the person but for some reason

1125
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:39,140
they knew to place either a thin sheet

1126
01:00:45,459 --> 01:00:42,170
of silver or a thin sheet of gold over

1127
01:00:47,769 --> 01:00:45,469
top of the wound and gold is an

1128
01:00:52,229 --> 01:00:47,779
excellent metal because it doesn't react

1129
01:00:55,359 --> 01:00:52,239
to the body and silver is antibiotic so

1130
01:00:58,539 --> 01:00:55,369
after they would put this thin thin

1131
01:01:00,880 --> 01:00:58,549
circular or square sheet on and then of

1132
01:01:03,660 --> 01:01:00,890
course cover it with cotton etc etc over

1133
01:01:06,459 --> 01:01:03,670
time the skin is going to come in and

1134
01:01:10,989 --> 01:01:06,469
encircle the area and then the bone can

1135
01:01:13,779 --> 01:01:10,999
recover underneath it I just think that

1136
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:13,789
that's amazing you know that they had

1137
01:01:21,029 --> 01:01:18,650
that technology to do that or whether

1138
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:21,039
rock where the proc is people of

1139
01:01:26,049 --> 01:01:24,170
builders you know do they have I mean

1140
01:01:29,799 --> 01:01:26,059
other than the beginning of the Nazca

1141
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:29,809
lines did they have any and I'm going to

1142
01:01:34,410 --> 01:01:32,089
put this in quote monumental

1143
01:01:38,469 --> 01:01:34,420
architecture that's attached to them

1144
01:01:42,759 --> 01:01:38,479
well the problem is that they were

1145
01:01:48,390 --> 01:01:42,769
victims of an environment that wasn't

1146
01:01:52,660 --> 01:01:48,400
rich in stone it's basically all sand

1147
01:01:57,249 --> 01:01:52,670
with you know like riverstone sort of

1148
01:01:58,989 --> 01:01:57,259
sizes cusco and tiwanaku areas are

1149
01:02:01,209 --> 01:01:58,999
different because you have it's all

1150
01:02:04,660 --> 01:02:01,219
volcanic and you have mountains that are

1151
01:02:06,219 --> 01:02:04,670
solid stone so obviously megalithic work

1152
01:02:09,999 --> 01:02:06,229
was done in the highlands but not on the

1153
01:02:12,219 --> 01:02:10,009
coast they did build huge or actually

1154
01:02:16,809 --> 01:02:12,229
relatively huge pyramidal structures out

1155
01:02:20,739 --> 01:02:16,819
of adobe brick in some cases millions of

1156
01:02:24,190 --> 01:02:20,749
bricks making up a large temple and then

1157
01:02:27,339 --> 01:02:24,200
also the Royal the Royal practice lived

1158
01:02:34,209 --> 01:02:27,349
in in houses that were constructed

1159
01:02:36,099 --> 01:02:34,219
underground that's smart yeah and so

1160
01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:36,109
these they have been found some of these

1161
01:02:40,620 --> 01:02:38,569
under where they they were they just pit

1162
01:02:42,839 --> 01:02:40,630
houses or were they literally

1163
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:42,849
underground

1164
01:02:52,930 --> 01:02:50,690
would think probably you know not large

1165
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:52,940
it would be you'd have an access hole

1166
01:02:57,839 --> 01:02:55,970
and then you then the you'd have a room

1167
01:03:01,180 --> 01:02:57,849
underground which would be probably

1168
01:03:03,309 --> 01:03:01,190
something like 12 you know 12 feet by 12

1169
01:03:07,029 --> 01:03:03,319
feet just to place a place more or less

1170
01:03:10,210 --> 01:03:07,039
to sleep but they found a small city in

1171
01:03:14,289 --> 01:03:10,220
practice of with several hundred of

1172
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:14,299
these underground houses the big screen

1173
01:03:24,009 --> 01:03:20,690
TV there said yeah parking for three

1174
01:03:29,130 --> 01:03:24,019
Porsches right well that would just be

1175
01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:29,140
in the pyramid yeah let's talk about

1176
01:03:35,859 --> 01:03:33,049
peru and the antiquities you know in

1177
01:03:38,229 --> 01:03:35,869
Peru Bolivia has their I mean you know

1178
01:03:40,839 --> 01:03:38,239
you've come on the show a number of

1179
01:03:45,220 --> 01:03:40,849
times and it is just so frustrating to

1180
01:03:47,950 --> 01:03:45,230
me to find out over time that not really

1181
01:03:49,630 --> 01:03:47,960
anything is being done down there has

1182
01:03:51,609 --> 01:03:49,640
that chain I mean it's been kind of a

1183
01:03:54,220 --> 01:03:51,619
while since you've been on last but has

1184
01:03:58,029 --> 01:03:54,230
there been any more interest taken in

1185
01:04:01,620 --> 01:03:58,039
what's going on from archaeological and

1186
01:04:05,890 --> 01:04:01,630
research point of view there is

1187
01:04:08,589 --> 01:04:05,900
especially in Bolivia we were in Bolivia

1188
01:04:13,029 --> 01:04:08,599
last week or was it even that long ago

1189
01:04:15,190 --> 01:04:13,039
up it up in the Tiwanaku and Lake

1190
01:04:18,789 --> 01:04:15,200
Titicaca area and we got to spend time

1191
01:04:21,039 --> 01:04:18,799
with Bolivian author called Antonio

1192
01:04:23,950 --> 01:04:21,049
Portugal who's written I think eight

1193
01:04:27,370 --> 01:04:23,960
books and he's worked with some of the

1194
01:04:30,970 --> 01:04:27,380
prominent archaeologists both Bolivian

1195
01:04:34,089 --> 01:04:30,980
and foreign for I think for decades and

1196
01:04:37,630 --> 01:04:34,099
he showed me photographs of megalithic

1197
01:04:39,069 --> 01:04:37,640
sites which are underground that they

1198
01:04:42,249 --> 01:04:39,079
have uncovered but have had to have

1199
01:04:45,339 --> 01:04:42,259
cover back up until proper funding is

1200
01:04:48,039 --> 01:04:45,349
found because making a discovery like

1201
01:04:49,989 --> 01:04:48,049
that local people if they find out that

1202
01:04:52,749 --> 01:04:49,999
you're you know that you're digging at a

1203
01:04:55,420 --> 01:04:52,759
site that has not been heard about

1204
01:04:55,990 --> 01:04:55,430
before there's a great tendency of

1205
01:05:00,460 --> 01:04:56,000
looting

1206
01:05:03,990 --> 01:05:00,470
so he showed me photographs of walls

1207
01:05:07,150 --> 01:05:04,000
with multi-ton stone blocks

1208
01:05:09,850 --> 01:05:07,160
tight-fitting in the lake titicaca area

1209
01:05:14,670 --> 01:05:09,860
that have had to be covered back up

1210
01:05:20,350 --> 01:05:14,680
until some future funding can be found

1211
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:20,360
he also did a sonogram or echo what if I

1212
01:05:27,850 --> 01:05:22,370
am heard the term but anyway some kind

1213
01:05:29,940 --> 01:05:27,860
of echo echo machine that was able to a

1214
01:05:32,410 --> 01:05:29,950
ground-penetrating radar sort of

1215
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:32,420
machinery and they've discovered a

1216
01:05:36,850 --> 01:05:35,090
number of chambers underneath Tiahuanaco

1217
01:05:39,850 --> 01:05:36,860
which are part of the original

1218
01:05:41,830 --> 01:05:39,860
construction and so he believes that

1219
01:05:45,130 --> 01:05:41,840
there's a whole system of tunnels and

1220
01:05:48,310 --> 01:05:45,140
chambers underneath the tihuanaco in

1221
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:48,320
puma punku area which are thousands of

1222
01:05:54,910 --> 01:05:51,890
years old well from what I understand

1223
01:05:57,310 --> 01:05:54,920
you know that whole area is riddled with

1224
01:06:01,210 --> 01:05:57,320
tunnels or that there are tunnels there

1225
01:06:04,540 --> 01:06:01,220
that just extend really far in distance

1226
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:04,550
releaser they allegedly extend really

1227
01:06:12,850 --> 01:06:08,530
far distance yeah well there are so many

1228
01:06:15,700 --> 01:06:12,860
legends about that there's another study

1229
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:15,710
that was done by a French team using

1230
01:06:21,610 --> 01:06:17,930
ground-penetrating radar I think from an

1231
01:06:24,580 --> 01:06:21,620
airplane over Cusco and they found out

1232
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:24,590
that there is definitely a tunnel that

1233
01:06:29,650 --> 01:06:26,690
connects saqsaywaman which is one of the

1234
01:06:32,110 --> 01:06:29,660
largest megalithic sites in the Americas

1235
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:32,120
and it's located well if it was daylight

1236
01:06:36,970 --> 01:06:34,490
I could see it out the window but it's

1237
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:36,980
located about a two miles from the

1238
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:39,890
center of cusco and so this tunnel goes

1239
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:43,370
underneath saqsaywaman underneath the

1240
01:06:48,790 --> 01:06:46,730
city of Cusco and goes at least as far

1241
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:48,800
as this megalithic building called the

1242
01:06:54,610 --> 01:06:50,930
quarry conchae it may even go farther

1243
01:06:58,300 --> 01:06:54,620
but so there is um you know there is

1244
01:07:01,390 --> 01:06:58,310
mounting evidence that some of the oral

1245
01:07:03,700 --> 01:07:01,400
traditions of tunnels and and mysterious

1246
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:03,710
chambers and lost ancient high

1247
01:07:09,990 --> 01:07:06,890
technology that this stuff is real and

1248
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:10,000
not just the stuff of fantasy or

1249
01:07:20,050 --> 01:07:17,690
movies I saw that there were some

1250
01:07:24,130 --> 01:07:20,060
pictures posted but there were very few

1251
01:07:26,110 --> 01:07:24,140
of them doing construction in Cusco

1252
01:07:30,670 --> 01:07:26,120
where they kind of tore out the street

1253
01:07:32,230 --> 01:07:30,680
to put in new I don't know plumbing or

1254
01:07:35,230 --> 01:07:32,240
something I couldn't quite figure I

1255
01:07:37,570 --> 01:07:35,240
don't remember what they were doing when

1256
01:07:41,590 --> 01:07:37,580
they but when they were doing that when

1257
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:41,600
they dug down into the ground were there

1258
01:07:46,210 --> 01:07:44,210
any archaeologists on hand you know

1259
01:07:48,190 --> 01:07:46,220
documenting anything that they might

1260
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:48,200
have found down there before they sealed

1261
01:07:54,060 --> 01:07:52,370
it back up oh definitely that what they

1262
01:07:57,130 --> 01:07:54,070
were doing as she is was laying

1263
01:08:01,200 --> 01:07:57,140
fiber-optic cable which is probably what

1264
01:08:04,170 --> 01:08:01,210
I'm using right now and if I'm lucky and

1265
01:08:10,170 --> 01:08:04,180
yeah they discovered you know so

1266
01:08:12,670 --> 01:08:10,180
beautiful stone walls and and parts of

1267
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:12,680
sections of buildings and a state a

1268
01:08:17,710 --> 01:08:16,250
staircase that went down made of very

1269
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:17,720
tight fitting stones and so the

1270
01:08:22,870 --> 01:08:20,930
controversy went on for at least four

1271
01:08:26,260 --> 01:08:22,880
months as to what to do about it because

1272
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:26,270
it's it was a major or it is a major

1273
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:28,970
street in Cusco that carries a lot of

1274
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:31,930
traffic and so the battle was between

1275
01:08:39,850 --> 01:08:35,570
the archaeologists who who wanted to

1276
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:39,860
keep digging and the the rest of the

1277
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:41,690
people who said we need the road back

1278
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:45,890
and unfortunately they did document

1279
01:08:50,260 --> 01:08:48,170
everything but unfortunately the people

1280
01:08:52,860 --> 01:08:50,270
who wanted it to be a road one and so

1281
01:08:58,570 --> 01:08:52,870
now it's covered in black top again I

1282
01:09:00,730 --> 01:08:58,580
fought the road in the road one okay but

1283
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:00,740
that actually brings up another really

1284
01:09:07,150 --> 01:09:05,210
interesting point or caught is that if

1285
01:09:08,650 --> 01:09:07,160
there were these strut let me ask a

1286
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:08,660
different question so how far down did

1287
01:09:17,440 --> 01:09:13,010
they go how far down did they dig um I

1288
01:09:21,970 --> 01:09:17,450
think about only about 15 feet because

1289
01:09:23,470 --> 01:09:21,980
15 feet well they you know they they did

1290
01:09:25,300 --> 01:09:23,480
the initial excavation

1291
01:09:27,940 --> 01:09:25,310
for the fiber optics and then they

1292
01:09:29,950 --> 01:09:27,950
started to find artifacts and then the

1293
01:09:34,030 --> 01:09:29,960
archaeologists came in for I think a

1294
01:09:36,070 --> 01:09:34,040
month or two and kept going down to some

1295
01:09:38,710 --> 01:09:36,080
degree but then then it became the

1296
01:09:40,090 --> 01:09:38,720
battle between you know are you going to

1297
01:09:42,550 --> 01:09:40,100
keep digging or can we have the road

1298
01:09:44,740 --> 01:09:42,560
back and there are stories that there

1299
01:09:47,260 --> 01:09:44,750
are many buildings underneath the

1300
01:09:49,180 --> 01:09:47,270
present-day city of Cuzco anyway that

1301
01:09:51,910 --> 01:09:49,190
are megalithic in nature and were

1302
01:09:54,729 --> 01:09:51,920
constructed long before the inca that

1303
01:09:58,060 --> 01:09:54,739
the Inca in fact discovered cuzco as an

1304
01:09:59,620 --> 01:09:58,070
abandoned city so this lens create you

1305
01:10:03,430 --> 01:09:59,630
know this little example of the street

1306
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:03,440
lends credence to that is true mm-hmm

1307
01:10:08,050 --> 01:10:05,810
but I mean I'm thinking okay they went

1308
01:10:11,310 --> 01:10:08,060
down 15 feet so when you're talking

1309
01:10:15,210 --> 01:10:11,320
about something like the quarry Concha

1310
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:15,220
that might even be a much later

1311
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:18,890
megalithic construction compared to what

1312
01:10:27,130 --> 01:10:23,930
was down 15 feet you know in some way

1313
01:10:30,850 --> 01:10:27,140
earlier civilization kind of thing well

1314
01:10:34,030 --> 01:10:30,860
they haven't really dug down to find the

1315
01:10:36,330 --> 01:10:34,040
foundation of the quarry can't yet so it

1316
01:10:39,970 --> 01:10:36,340
could be sitting on top of something

1317
01:10:42,610 --> 01:10:39,980
more profound there are a lot of stories

1318
01:10:44,350 --> 01:10:42,620
of that there is it especially from

1319
01:10:46,060 --> 01:10:44,360
indigenous people that they're you know

1320
01:10:49,330 --> 01:10:46,070
there is a tunnel system underneath the

1321
01:10:52,020 --> 01:10:49,340
city that nothing you know you can't dig

1322
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:52,030
it up now because people are you know

1323
01:10:57,820 --> 01:10:54,890
half a million people are using cusco as

1324
01:11:00,430 --> 01:10:57,830
a modern-day city so there the chance

1325
01:11:04,870 --> 01:11:00,440
that a major excavation can be done is

1326
01:11:08,590 --> 01:11:04,880
slim to zero but what I look for since

1327
01:11:12,330 --> 01:11:08,600
we spend a lot of time in cusco are you

1328
01:11:17,530 --> 01:11:12,340
know people doing possible additions to

1329
01:11:18,910 --> 01:11:17,540
their colonial house like in the yard

1330
01:11:21,190 --> 01:11:18,920
they want to add a room on so they're

1331
01:11:23,890 --> 01:11:21,200
going down to to pour a concrete

1332
01:11:25,540 --> 01:11:23,900
foundation and then wow they discovered

1333
01:11:29,950 --> 01:11:25,550
that they've got a megalithic wall you

1334
01:11:31,060 --> 01:11:29,960
know underneath the grass yeah see I

1335
01:11:32,930 --> 01:11:31,070
wouldn't be pouring a concrete

1336
01:11:35,540 --> 01:11:32,940
foundation if I had that

1337
01:11:37,790 --> 01:11:35,550
no and the other problem is that if you

1338
01:11:41,570 --> 01:11:37,800
if you do find something which is Inca

1339
01:11:43,550 --> 01:11:41,580
or older on your property the government

1340
01:11:46,939 --> 01:11:43,560
could just take your take your house so

1341
01:11:48,890 --> 01:11:46,949
these these are quiet stories I hear

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01:11:52,459 --> 01:11:48,900
from people but I do know that there was

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01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:52,469
one a very great friend of mine who's a

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01:11:57,290 --> 01:11:54,930
profound anthropologist here in Cusco he

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01:11:59,870 --> 01:11:57,300
said that a friend of his who owns a

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01:12:01,430 --> 01:11:59,880
hotel wanted to make an extension and so

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01:12:04,070 --> 01:12:01,440
they started to dig down to pour

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01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:04,080
concrete and they discovered you know

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01:12:08,150 --> 01:12:06,290
this megalithic structure and

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01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:08,160
unfortunately they had to just cover it

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01:12:11,900 --> 01:12:09,810
back over because otherwise he was

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01:12:14,510 --> 01:12:11,910
afraid that the government would say

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01:12:17,270 --> 01:12:14,520
well guess what you know we're buying

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01:12:21,590 --> 01:12:17,280
your house and or your hotel and you're

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01:12:24,530 --> 01:12:21,600
gonna have to move somewhere I just keep

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01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:24,540
thinking I mean I know that there is the

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01:12:32,900 --> 01:12:29,010
custom of you know covering over old

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01:12:36,860 --> 01:12:32,910
stuff you know to make the new place

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01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:36,870
although you know but it just makes me

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01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:39,330
go okay so if that's down there what's

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01:12:46,070 --> 01:12:43,170
below that you know it well it's my mind

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01:12:50,030 --> 01:12:46,080
go well it does and have you been to

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01:12:53,390 --> 01:12:50,040
Egypt yet know what I'm working on it

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01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:53,400
I'm working on I have started my I'm

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01:13:00,080 --> 01:12:57,330
going someplace fund well you'll have to

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01:13:02,959 --> 01:13:00,090
meet my friends the allianz who carry

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01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:02,969
the oral tradition of Egypt and one day

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01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:06,810
I think the first trip I made when we

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01:13:12,500 --> 01:13:10,770
had a tour with Stephen Baylor I you

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01:13:15,830 --> 01:13:12,510
know I had nothing to do so I decided to

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01:13:19,820 --> 01:13:15,840
walk up onto the Giza Plateau and Yusuf

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01:13:22,430 --> 01:13:19,830
who is an expert in in ancient Egypt

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01:13:24,979 --> 01:13:22,440
said well I'll come with you and he took

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01:13:26,570 --> 01:13:24,989
me because he has influence he took me

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01:13:29,510 --> 01:13:26,580
what is you know what is normally called

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01:13:31,459 --> 01:13:29,520
out of bounds to tourists then we wound

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01:13:34,189 --> 01:13:31,469
up three stories underneath the Giza

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01:13:39,860 --> 01:13:34,199
Plateau in this in this tunnel system

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01:13:43,150 --> 01:13:39,870
and so it's very true there's so much

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01:13:46,649 --> 01:13:43,160
that's underground even sahi Hawass

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01:13:49,859 --> 01:13:46,659
agrees with them with

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01:13:52,679 --> 01:13:49,869
us that and if people don't know who

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01:13:55,199 --> 01:13:52,689
zahi hawass says he used to be the head

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01:13:57,509 --> 01:13:55,209
of the Supreme Council of Antiquities in

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01:13:59,129 --> 01:13:57,519
Egypt he agrees that only fifteen

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01:14:01,229 --> 01:13:59,139
percent of ancient Egypt has been

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01:14:03,060 --> 01:14:01,239
discovered that the other eighty-five

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01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:03,070
percent is still under the sand and

1389
01:14:11,729 --> 01:14:06,010
we're talking megalithic height you know

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01:14:17,399 --> 01:14:11,739
ancient high technology work so that is

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01:14:19,020 --> 01:14:17,409
cool oh yeah that is ok so Daria and I'm

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01:14:21,629 --> 01:14:19,030
not going to try to say her last name

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01:14:24,810 --> 01:14:21,639
because i can't pronounce it i already

1394
01:14:27,719 --> 01:14:24,820
know that in advance and she wanted to

1395
01:14:30,270 --> 01:14:27,729
know if you are going to be back in

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01:14:33,839 --> 01:14:30,280
Egypt and if you give tours there or you

1397
01:14:36,719 --> 01:14:33,849
take groups there I guess once a year

1398
01:14:38,339 --> 01:14:36,729
and you know I may be biased but I

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01:14:41,279 --> 01:14:38,349
believe that the people i work with

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01:14:43,919 --> 01:14:41,289
their know more than anybody on the

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01:14:46,229 --> 01:14:43,929
planet because they can trace their

1402
01:14:48,179 --> 01:14:46,239
their family history back thousands of

1403
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:48,189
years they can trace themselves back

1404
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:50,530
probably before the dynastic Egyptians

1405
01:14:55,609 --> 01:14:53,050
and those are the Ariane family they

1406
01:15:00,959 --> 01:14:55,619
live across the street from the Sphinx

1407
01:15:05,339 --> 01:15:00,969
their father Hakeem was the expert of he

1408
01:15:08,549 --> 01:15:05,349
was the most famous and best guide of

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01:15:12,209 --> 01:15:08,559
ancient Egypt and so if if anyone wants

1410
01:15:16,259 --> 01:15:12,219
to will be going in April so if you look

1411
01:15:18,029 --> 01:15:16,269
at my website hidden inca tours com on

1412
01:15:20,879 --> 01:15:18,039
the front page there's there's a link to

1413
01:15:24,299 --> 01:15:20,889
our Egypt or and we show people stuff

1414
01:15:27,359 --> 01:15:24,309
that blows their minds it's it's a real

1415
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:27,369
indiana jones adventure without the

1416
01:15:35,580 --> 01:15:32,650
popcorn and commercials but the popcorns

1417
01:15:40,250 --> 01:15:35,590
pretty good well popcorns good popcorns

1418
01:15:43,429 --> 01:15:40,260
good so we have about three more minutes

1419
01:15:45,989 --> 01:15:43,439
what's coming up for you trip in

1420
01:15:48,209 --> 01:15:45,999
September is it sep tember because thats

1421
01:15:51,089 --> 01:15:48,219
Daria says already booked for September

1422
01:15:58,169 --> 01:15:51,099
so is it in September no it's an april

1423
01:15:59,760 --> 01:15:58,179
oh okay anyway huh so let's uh what what

1424
01:16:02,070 --> 01:15:59,770
are we up to

1425
01:16:04,020 --> 01:16:02,080
we have a number of short tours in the

1426
01:16:07,740 --> 01:16:04,030
next couple of weeks we're taking a

1427
01:16:12,030 --> 01:16:07,750
group into the Amazon to experience

1428
01:16:15,750 --> 01:16:12,040
ayahuasca then we're going to Australia

1429
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:15,760
for three weeks and to do some lectures

1430
01:16:23,010 --> 01:16:18,970
and then spend a week in New Zealand

1431
01:16:24,780 --> 01:16:23,020
with the Maori people and then in

1432
01:16:26,730 --> 01:16:24,790
October we have a tour with Hugh Newman

1433
01:16:29,550 --> 01:16:26,740
of the highlands of Peru looking for

1434
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:29,560
possible evidence of an Atlantian city

1435
01:16:34,830 --> 01:16:32,770
that people can join and februari we're

1436
01:16:39,690 --> 01:16:34,840
exploring all of the ancient cultures of

1437
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:39,700
Mexico and then April is our tour of

1438
01:16:45,690 --> 01:16:43,290
Egypt boy you're just everywhere I

1439
01:16:55,620 --> 01:16:45,700
should learn to sit down once in a while

1440
01:16:58,140 --> 01:16:55,630
I am now yeah also please quickly tell

1441
01:17:01,500 --> 01:16:58,150
people about your videos because those

1442
01:17:04,440 --> 01:17:01,510
are really great and you know you share

1443
01:17:08,070 --> 01:17:04,450
so much information with people well I

1444
01:17:10,850 --> 01:17:08,080
have 750 videos so far on my youtube

1445
01:17:14,610 --> 01:17:10,860
channel I normally put one up every

1446
01:17:15,990 --> 01:17:14,620
three and so it's under my name Brien

1447
01:17:17,940 --> 01:17:16,000
Foerster you'll have to look at the

1448
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:17,950
proper spelling of my name because it's

1449
01:17:25,620 --> 01:17:21,250
not the normal way but yeah my my my

1450
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:25,630
youtube channel a lot of videos and I

1451
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:29,530
just passed the 20 million erk so it's

1452
01:17:35,820 --> 01:17:34,090
actually a bit more by my youtube videos

1453
01:17:37,380 --> 01:17:35,830
I guess than anything else which is fine

1454
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:37,390
with me it's a lot easier to make a

1455
01:17:41,730 --> 01:17:39,210
youtube video than it is to write a book

1456
01:17:46,470 --> 01:17:41,740
I'm hearing your brother as we were

1457
01:17:49,170 --> 01:17:46,480
hearing you yes I do but your book if

1458
01:17:52,980 --> 01:17:49,180
somebody wants to get it where would

1459
01:17:57,060 --> 01:17:52,990
they where would they go to find it your

1460
01:17:59,580 --> 01:17:57,070
elongated skull book it and the 15 other

1461
01:18:03,930 --> 01:17:59,590
books I've written are all on Amazon

1462
01:18:07,110 --> 01:18:03,940
both in in paperback form and also all

1463
01:18:09,750 --> 01:18:07,120
forms of ebook too or at least a neat

1464
01:18:13,830 --> 01:18:09,760
ebook that works on any possible kind of

1465
01:18:16,620 --> 01:18:13,840
device excellent Brian always a pleasure

1466
01:18:20,100 --> 01:18:16,630
having you well it's always a pleasure

1467
01:18:23,359 --> 01:18:20,110
doctor the time just flies it does it

1468
01:18:25,290 --> 01:18:23,369
does well I'm gonna let you go and

1469
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:25,300
you'll just have to keep me informed

1470
01:18:28,530 --> 01:18:27,010
when you have some more juicy

1471
01:18:30,270 --> 01:18:28,540
information that you're ready to come on

1472
01:18:32,550 --> 01:18:30,280
and talk about or a book or you know

1473
01:18:35,220 --> 01:18:32,560
whatever okay that'd be great maybe

1474
01:18:36,810 --> 01:18:35,230
after our trip to Mexico because we're

1475
01:18:40,919 --> 01:18:36,820
going to be covering the Toltec the

1476
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:40,929
Olmec the Aztec and the Maya so actually

1477
01:18:44,790 --> 01:18:42,730
I feel like sending you with my list of

1478
01:18:49,950 --> 01:18:44,800
questions for Australia and New Zealand

1479
01:18:52,500 --> 01:18:49,960
cuz i'm working on a project but it's

1480
01:18:53,850 --> 01:18:52,510
good questions oh well we're actually

1481
01:18:55,709 --> 01:18:53,860
going to see the what are called the

1482
01:18:59,399 --> 01:18:55,719
gospel glyphs which are supposed to

1483
01:19:02,879 --> 01:18:59,409
Egyptian hieroglyphics and so that i

1484
01:19:05,070 --> 01:19:02,889
will definitely document good anyway the

1485
01:19:08,339 --> 01:19:05,080
music started so I got to go oh great

1486
01:19:10,350 --> 01:19:08,349
alright bye Brian thank you doctor all

1487
01:19:13,770 --> 01:19:10,360
right that's Brian Forrester his webpage

1488
01:19:15,570 --> 01:19:13,780
is hidden in Couture's calm and next

1489
01:19:17,580 --> 01:19:15,580
week we have the infamous Jim Marrs

1490
01:19:19,859 --> 01:19:17,590
coming on to talk about is corporate

1491
01:19:21,870 --> 01:19:19,869
America killing us and in the second

1492
01:19:23,939 --> 01:19:21,880
hour we have Richard Saunders coming on

1493
01:19:26,910 --> 01:19:23,949
talking about extraterrestrials and

1494
01:19:29,729 --> 01:19:26,920
underground bases and so until next time

1495
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:29,739
I'm dr. REE Louise this is just energy

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01:19:59,560 --> 01:19:56,530
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